DSM Central Drag event help Options

[AWD DSM 1]

why are we nit picking the rules..... I have an idea.... write a list of the mods done to your car that you are claiming..... have a tech at the track look at your car..... the tech then decides if your car can run in the class you pick to run in or if you have to change to the next up class.

Still building my car at the moment... If I throw something on it that will bump me up a class, I may hold off on putting it on, or take it off for the event...

sneaky, I know....

[SCCA Stang]

(awd4kicks @ Feb 5 2006, 03:04 PM)

The rules have been kept fairly simple and mean what they say and only what they say. 

Which means that you must use a stock OEM turbo on the car, not a 16g/20g on a 1g or a 14b/T28 on a 2g to be within the rules. Big advantage to the evo's with the 16g stock. Factor in that the rules don't prohibit meth/water injector and you've got the makings for a very low 11 second evo to take the class. cheater turbos like the white rabbit on the evo could make et's drop even faster for those who want to win no matter what.

My evo would be sitting in street stock and could be a possible contender even without water/meth injection but my gsx would be severely outclassed it it's group.

I think that this thread on page 5 by miami clearifies any issues with the rule books....

I am sure however that if I were to claim that my EVO III 16G were in fact a 14B and I took street stock, there would be a lot of pissed off people and rightfully so.... and I don't even think that they would have to open my hood to find out that I switched turbo's cause the times would tell all.... it would be pretty difficult for a 14b car to keep up with my setup (my driving is another story)

long story short; if I were to run mid twelves and the closest 14b in the class were to run high 13s it would be quite obvious that I should have been in a different class and would expect to get challenged for rule book violations....

[mitsu90]

what we had done last year is allow 16G cars in the street stock class. it worked out pretty well.

Eric

form this post it seems as though 16g will be allowed in the stock class.

[black92_tsi_awd]

what we had done last year is allow 16G cars in the street stock class. it worked out pretty well.

Eric

form this post it seems as though 16g will be allowed in the stock class.

that's the one post I haven't liked...if it come stock with a 14b, then it should run with a 14b.

[mitsu90]

I think they are makeing it a little even sine the EVO's come stock with a 16g, the 14b's wont stand much of a chance.thats why I decided not to bring my bone stock talon.

[AMS]

Guys, there simply are not enough cars to get this specific on classes. I hate to be so blunt but its the way things have to be. I would rather have 5 fields 10 plus cars deep then 10 fields 5 cars deep. There isnt much excitement in that.

Eric

[akamiami]

good way to put it, Eric.

Though I'm sure it would make somebody very happy to take the trophy home for first place in the 'Red 1g FWD with a 16g on 550's, tuned with a MAFT' class, the rest of us would rightly just throw our hands up and say 'WTF, who cares'.

[Rizzo]

not that this matters much to me but I have had people ask about stock class. Are NA cars in the same class as evos and such?

[AWD DSM 1]

I think you guys are missing the point slightly... I'm more concerned with what mods will bump you out of stock class... I don't want more classes, just clarifiction on the ones that exist. I think there are some grey areas that leave the door open for argements.

IMO, I'd like to see stock class include mods such as 16g's, 2g MAS on 1g's, up to 550 injectors... anything that can be found on a stock 4g63 motor. I think it levels the playing field so all cars can compete.

Just my .02.

[SCCA Stang]

Cuious. Is a 14b 92 talon awd in the same class as a 03+ evo8?
If so, woe to the dsm.

Had that dsm ben allowed a 16g, perhaps it would be more of a race.

Hopefully, we can have someone in authority come out and say...
A dsm can have a 16g and still race in the stock class, or it can not have a 16g and be in the stock class.

Evo is still sporting a 4g63t.. with a twin scroll 16g...
might as well throw a bone to the dsm's!

I kinda like the idea of that my self.... especially since with my 16g I might accually be able to compete.... in street modified, I am afraid that I will be severely outclassed....

but as the current rule sheet states.... I am in street modified until a change is made.

[mitsu90]

what we had done last year is allow 16G cars in the street stock class. it worked out pretty well.

Eric

form this post it seems as though 16g will be allowed in the stock class.

ben did you miss this post??

[SCCA Stang]

but it was never stated that the situation would be the same this year!!!

[mitsu90]

I talked to kicks awhile back and he said they would be allowed in the stock class.

[mitsu90]

I talked to kicks awhile back and he said they would be allowed in the stock class.

Works for me!
The FFGST will own the VR4!

I talked to kicks awhile back and he said they would be allowed in the stock class.

Works for me!
The FFGST will own the VR4!

better be feeding the freak it's wheaties. the vr4 has changed alot since you drove it last it has gotten bigger balls since ncgalant tuned it for me.
you may have a freak but I have a monster.

[AWD DSM 1]

You two are so silly.... everyone knows I'll own both of you!

[black92_tsi_awd]

Is there a pre-registration for this event yet?

I was curious if there was, if it showed what car was running what class? At least until tech decided otherwise....

[AMS]

if it looks like a stock turbo, it can be entered in the stock class. Much like the stock appearing class at Shootout.

Eric

[SCCA Stang]

I talked to kicks awhile back and he said they would be allowed in the stock class.

Works for me!
The FFGST will own the VR4!

I talked to kicks awhile back and he said they would be allowed in the stock class.

Works for me!
The FFGST will own the VR4!

better be feeding the freak it's wheaties. the vr4 has changed alot since you drove it last it has gotten bigger balls since ncgalant tuned it for me.
you may have a freak but I have a monster.

looks like the freak, the monster and the mutant will have to battle it out then...

stock class 16g's werks for me too!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zmann42087]

Just wanted to make sure I'm reading this right...

"Street Stock FWD" is a completely different class from the "Street Stock AWD & RWD" class. Correct???

[mitsu90]

Just wanted to make sure I'm reading this right...

"Street Stock FWD" is a completely different class from the "Street Stock AWD & RWD" class. Correct???

Street Stock FWD, AWD & RWD (Factory stock 4 & 6 cylinders only)
*Heads up class with Sportsman’s Tree
*Single Elimination, ET Determines 3rd place Finisher.
*Each racer will run their first elimination based on a random draw. After that,
sportsman’s elimination will be in effect
*Vehicle must appear street legal and be licensable.
*Stock body and chassis required.
*Full interior required (Back seats may be removed).
*All cars must run a radial tire/ Quick time Pro’s and ET streets are not allowed.
*Cars with turbochargers can use only the manufactures stock turbo
*NO Nitrous is allowed. If you have a bottle, nozzle, solenoid and we don’t approve
you will not run in the class