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Feb 5 2006, 09:48 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Here we are in a new year 2006 to be exact. A new year calls for change and so I have. I have changed from the 1G DSM. A fine car that it was in it's six years of Graves service. I chose to trade the ole'girl for a 2G.
Now this 2G is a great car. It has sleek body lines and more options. I can see everything that I have ever wanted in a DSM when I look at this 2G. I have only dreamed of owning one of these. Now the day has come that I do. I have done some hard soul searching trying to decide what to do with the motor. I have priced many different rebuild kits, rebuilt motors, short blocks, long blocks, you get the idea. And none could stay within my budget. As most of you know I started a project called "Fireball"! Well guess where the donor heart is going to come from. I saved myself alot of money making this decision. Here is a list of the thing that I am purchasing for this new project of mine. I am probably forgetting something.
I am open to comments on what I have decided to do. I have strong shoulders, give it to me. I honestly think I have a reasonable setup for what I was looking for in the beginning. Thanks for taking the time to read this long boring thread! This post has been edited by BudmannG: Feb 8 2006, 02:21 PM -------------------- |
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Feb 6 2006, 07:44 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
You'll want to add a AFPR to that list.
Also, skip the a/f gauge and go for an EGT, you'll get more usefull info out of that. Most people agree that the a/f is just some blinky lights. I asume you've got some i/c piping to go with the FMIC? That motor got a good timing belt on it? Now's the time to replace it if it's questionable! Plugs and some good plug wires? Don't leave out all the little tune up and maintanance things... that crap can add up in a hurry. OH, and you'll probably want some spare parts laying around for when you start breaking stuff.... -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Feb 6 2006, 08:20 AM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Chillicothe, IL Member No.: 182 |
Don't buy that puck disc unless you want to break your tranny. The ACT organic disc works very well.
-------------------- GVR4 866/1000 = the perpetually broken car
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Feb 6 2006, 08:55 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Why do you have a 2G Maft and a 3" GM listed? You only need one.
Will you still need a translator for the GM Maf even with the DSM link? -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Feb 6 2006, 09:06 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Well guys I have a AFPR and a new timing belt kit to put on it. I just have to buy a tensioner now. Plugs, wires and all the little misc. stuff has not been forgotten about.
As for the way I worded the 2G maft, I was talking about a translator for the 3" GM Mafs. Sorry I confused people, I thought that's what it was called. Thanks for all the input so far guys. -------------------- |
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Feb 6 2006, 12:58 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Which AFPR do you have?
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 6 2006, 01:24 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I am going to run my ebayer unless it shows signs of problems. Then I will buy one that is worth the money.
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Feb 6 2006, 03:02 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
I thought it was giving you problems at the track?
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 6 2006, 04:21 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I am thinking it was an ECU problem in my 91, not sure until I can play with it.
I did have a interesting question threw at me today. Why a GM Mafs? I replied that I prefer the blow through setup to the draw setup. Then they asked what the benifits were to having it over a stock 1g or 2g mafs. I don't know the answer to that question. Could someone answer that for me? I like the blow through for the bov being able to be open atmosphere. -------------------- |
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Feb 6 2006, 05:05 PM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
When you start running big boost and large airflow, you'll run into the upper limits of the 2G and especially 1G MAFs metering ability.
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Feb 6 2006, 05:26 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
From what I understand, the limit of the 2G stock MAF is around 400hp. The 2G flows 30% more air than the stock 1G. The GM MAF is a lot less restrictive and still allows you to run the Karmann style sensor in conjunction with the stock computer. The 1G sensor tends to be a major restriction, even on the stock turbo.
BTW, I've got a hacked (properly) 2G MAF with a cone filter kit, and hard intake pipe that fit directly on your car. $50 for you, I bought it for $75. If it doesn't work, I'll send you your money back. -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 6 2006, 05:44 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
No thanks Brett. I have a Gm Mafs already. I guess I just confused everyone with the way I said 2G maft. I meant to say 2g gm maf translator. But I do appreciate the offer man and the deal.
Are you supposed to take the honeycomb out off the GM mafs? I see in sale ads where everyone states that IT STILL HAS HONEYCOMBS. -------------------- |
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Feb 6 2006, 06:15 PM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 780 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 338 |
No, don't take that out. It works just fine and dandy the way it comes to you.
-------------------- QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Oct 31 2006, 12:41 AM)
thanks hcar.... I am still massaging that area trying to get it ready... ![]() |
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Feb 6 2006, 06:25 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Thanks Goat! It's setting on top of my fish tank right now. And I have been stairing at sence I got it over a month ago.
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Feb 6 2006, 07:51 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
The GM MAF works essentially the same way the stock MAFs do. The screen has to straighten the vortexs' in order for the sensor to read them correctly.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 6 2006, 08:28 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Feb 6 2006, 07:51 PM) The GM MAF works essentially the same way the stock MAFs do. The screen has to straighten the vortexs' in order for the sensor to read them correctly. Thanks Brett, You also helped me figure out how it goes in, LOL. I appreciate your help man. What is a good set of plug wire to get? -------------------- |
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Feb 6 2006, 10:30 PM
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Web Administrator Yo! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 516 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Mackinaw, IL Member No.: 376 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Feb 6 2006, 09:28 PM) What is a good set of plug wire to get? Magnecor wires seem to have a good rep. I have the 8.5mm wires and I think they added like 75hp because they are red! -------------------- Fast & Furious on the outside...DSM under the hood!!!
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Feb 7 2006, 07:14 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Honestly, it depends on what you believe in. I'm a man of physics (or I like to think so). There is a spark plug wire thread in DSMTuners that illustrates an independent test of different wires by one of the members. The conclusion? MSD offers the best wire in terms of the least resistance, followed by Accel's high end wires(which are the ones that I have, $70 wires). Magnacore was one of the worst, but it had one of the best radio suppression ratings. Radio suppression keeps the electronics in your car from getting fried by the radio frequency spark energy produces (this is how I understand it) but with good suppression comes a price, which is resistance. The lower the resistance, the more spark energy the wire can transmit.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 7 2006, 08:34 AM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Feb 6 2006, 07:51 PM) The GM MAF works essentially the same way the stock MAFs do. The screen has to straighten the vortexs' in order for the sensor to read them correctly. Actually that's not quite correct. The stock MAFs are Karman Vortex meters that work by using a sonic signal across the plenum inside the MAF. The variance of the sonic reading shows how much air is flowing through the MAF. This kind of MAF also requires an integrated temp and baro pressure sensor. A GM MAF is a hotwire MAF. It is constantly trying to keep its wire(s) at a constant temperature. The voltage that it has to supply to the wire to keep it at its preset temperature determines airflow, air temp, and air density all at the same time. The cooler the air molecules, the more the air molecules, or the denser the air molecules, the more voltage will be supplied to keep that wire hot. This analog voltage signal is seen by the translator which converts it to the frequency signal that our stock MAF would normally output so the DSM ECU has the correct input for mass air flow. |
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Feb 7 2006, 09:19 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Whoops! Looks like I've stumbled across some misinformation again. Thanks for the correction Nate.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 8 2006, 02:40 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,156 Joined: 23-September 02 Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Feb 7 2006, 07:14 AM) There is a spark plug wire thread in DSMTuners that illustrates an independent test of different wires by one of the members. that half-assed test was thoroughly discredited by an informed member of that board if you continued to read the thread beyond the initial post. judging an ignition wire by the measured or reported resistance per foot is about as accurate as determining how tasty an apple is by it's color. -------------------- my cars breath smells like car food
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Feb 8 2006, 08:49 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
So more or less buy what I think is right for my application?
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Feb 8 2006, 09:00 AM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
I've used the same set of Accel's for the past 5 years and have never had an issue with them. Or you could always go with a COP setup.
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Feb 8 2006, 09:03 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
QUOTE (natedogg @ Feb 8 2006, 09:00 AM) I've used the same set of Accel's for the past 5 years and have never had an issue with them. Or you could always go with a COP setup. I thought about that Nate, But the woman is pissed now because I am buying all this stuff for my car, -------------------- |
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Feb 8 2006, 09:32 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I just wanted to let Turbohcar and Natedogg know. I posted what you guys told me about the mafs on the other site that I freaquent. LOL, They say bullshit.
QUOTE I don't know who told you 400hp was the limit but that is a load of horseshit. Tons of guys running well over 400hp on the stock MAS. Besides what does 400hp or big boost have to do with running 11s? You should not need more than 25-30psi to run 11s if tuned properly. PJAY runs 11s and I don't think he is quite making 400whp. 90%+ DSM'ers never run "big boost".
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Feb 8 2006, 09:52 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Excuse me while I bow down to whoever you just quoted off another forum. Obviously they are a superior Intarweb Ninja and whipped me with his words. I lay merciless on the floor next to the keyboard, help me...
I'm quoting directly on a "somebody told me this, I don't have any verifiable sources, it's just what I've been told" basis. Natedogg is the King of Krunk. He, 99% of the time, has actual facts and research to back up his opinion, and therefore I bow down in his presence....under the table..... I'm the one that said the 2G MAS was limited to 400hp, not Nate. Sue me for being wrong(if I am). Here's one that will really make him mad, "the GM MAFT will support more horsepower than that piece of crap 2G MAS". OOOOOHHHHHH!!!! How do you like that one?!?! Your mother!! -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 8 2006, 10:01 AM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
I don't know about any specific hp numbers, but I do know you can overrun the 2G MAF's. How bout a link to the thread?
Also, the phrase 'big boost' is pretty relative. There's no specific definition there. I should have just left it at big airflow, but big boost + big turbo = big airflow. I know "big boost" isn't necessary for quick runs. I made my 12.02 run at 23-24 psi. Boost has less significance on hp output than actual airflow does. 25 psi on a 14b is a lot different than 25 psi on a GT35R. If I had known you were going to post my words on another forum for people I don't know to pick apart, I would have been more careful about how I worded it. We are a tight knit group here and I know most of the people on here personally so they get the gist of what I'm saying from experience. |
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Feb 8 2006, 10:03 AM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (turbohcar @ Feb 8 2006, 09:52 AM) "the GM MAFT will support more horsepower than that piece of crap 2G MAS". OOOOOHHHHHH!!!! Exactly. |
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Feb 8 2006, 11:47 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I don't want to make you guys mad. It wasn't for that, these guys on Gateway are just giving me shit because I want to run a blow through system.
I myself have seen peoples numbers on the track that have almost the same mods, but not mafs. And from what I have seen people that run the GM mafs have better numbers. I am sorry if I have offended you guys. I do take your words as gold, as I am not very familiar with the setup. I promise I will not do that again. And the quote came from dsmnightmare, as he is the owner/operater of GatewayDSM.org. and a member on our site also. Thanks guys and sorry once again! -------------------- |
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Feb 8 2006, 12:21 PM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 780 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 338 |
You do understand that having a MAF doesn't mean you have to run a blowthrough setup, right? Many members on this board are running a draw-through setup, and things are just fine. Nate can give you some solid theory on the pros-cons to both. Just wanting to have a bov vented to atmosphere is pretty lame IMO. The 1g cbv is rock-solid and much cheaper than aftermarket.
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thanks hcar.... I am still massaging that area trying to get it ready... ![]() |
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Feb 8 2006, 12:41 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (The Iron Goat @ Feb 8 2006, 12:21 PM) You do understand that having a MAF doesn't mean you have to run a blowthrough setup, right? Many members on this board are running a draw-through setup, and things are just fine. Nate can give you some solid theory on the pros-cons to both. Just wanting to have a bov vented to atmosphere is pretty lame IMO. The 1g cbv is rock-solid and much cheaper than aftermarket. Agreed. -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Feb 8 2006, 01:27 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
I'd like to hear any arguments on blow through vs draw through maf setups. I haven't figured out how I'm going to do my setup yet.
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Feb 8 2006, 01:58 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Yeah well, My setup has just changed all together. Not because of what you guys are saying. But because of the BOSS! I had to give up the turbo, and injectors so far.
God only knows what she wants me to give up next! Maybe my left or right juggular! -------------------- |
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Feb 8 2006, 02:05 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I have updated what is going to be on my car. SUX!
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Feb 8 2006, 04:28 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Ummm... Yeah. Big Air flow and big boost are both relative. I don't plan on running any over 30psi on my GT3052 and I call that both big boost and Big air flow. Aparently that is small potatoes in the eyes of some.
PS: You really need to be careful about taking one response from a thread out of context. I very rarely trust one opinion on a web site anyway unless I know the person or their experiences. Most people outspoken enough to blurt out the first answer usually just like to hear themselves talk (or uhm... type). -------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Feb 8 2006, 04:38 PM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
For some theories on draw-through vs. blow-through check out this thread.
http://www.dsmcentral.com/invision/index.p...st=0entry5567 |
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Feb 8 2006, 06:48 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
So should I still buy a wide band O2 for this stocker?
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Feb 8 2006, 06:50 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 25-September 02 From: Urbana, IL Member No.: 19 |
Blow through works great on the Buick, 3 inch sensor with 3 inch pipes. Throttle response picked up also. Most stock 2G MAF's overrun somewhere around 450whp, some as high as 500whp, hacked ones can obviously go higher. 1G MAFs can be overrun by a healthy EVO III 16g.
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Feb 8 2006, 07:52 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
^^^^ He said it not me!
J/K. Eric, a.k.a. Wortdog, is an engineer in the making and he is definitely a dependable source as well. -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 8 2006, 10:34 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
not sure if my opinion here can help or not.... I am definately not in any kind of league, engineering wise, as nate or eric, but I am currently running a 3" GM MAF and a translator setup as a draw through by NC Galant and it seems to work good.... I have had no problems with it.
as far as your spark plug wires are concerned, I am using NGK (8mm, I think) wires on my car for the past 2+ years with no problems out of them either.... they seem to work well and would probably work well for you too... just my .02 Ben -------------------- You CAN sleep in your car, but your CAN NOT race your house!!!
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Feb 9 2006, 06:37 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Feb 8 2006, 06:48 PM) So should I still buy a wide band for this stocker? Q> -------------------- |
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Feb 9 2006, 07:35 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
I'd seriously re-think your mod list if you're budget's getting axed. Things like the DSM Link and the wideband o2 are great tools, but may be overkill in your situation. I think if I were you, I'd find a set of 550's or 650's and a nice evo III 16g along with the supporting mods and shoot for some low 12 sec 1/4's. A lot can be done for very little with these cars, the reason most of us are here. Just seems to me like you're starting to put the cart before the horse...
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Feb 9 2006, 07:41 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Huh, That is what she said Rob, lol. The DSM Link is still on because it will make this 6 bolt swap alot easier. Well with out check engine lights. I am going to start stock, Show her this damn thing is going to run and then I will start mods.
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Feb 9 2006, 09:29 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I have a couple more questions I need to ask.
1. Should I leave the water lines on the turbo? I have heard a couple of different things about it. I thought it was there to cool the turbo? But I have heard people run without them also. 2. I am going to change the timing belt and all. I have a timing belt kit w/o the tensioner. Precision says the make a manual timing belt tensioner, I was thinking about buying. Good idea or not? 3. This one is for AWD DSM 1. Could you please pm me, I would like to know if you would do my timing belt for me, and what it will cost me to get it done. Would I need to bring it to you, or could you come to me? Just let me know, please. -------------------- |
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Feb 9 2006, 09:59 AM
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Timing belts aren't really that hard, expescially when they're out of the car. I'd be more than happy to help if you really think you need it though.
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Feb 9 2006, 11:11 AM
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#1. Leave the water lines on the turbocharger. It will help cool the turbo, which helps cool the intake temperature, which helps you make more power with less knock.
#3. Rob does top notch work. Don't let him be modest. He does super work for a small amount of money. He helped me do the headgasket, ARP headstuds, and timing belt on my car (along with all the work on the axles we had to do at 8pm on the side of I-74). Thanks again Rob! -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 9 2006, 12:03 PM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Feb 9 2006, 09:29 AM) I have a couple more questions I need to ask. 1. Should I leave the water lines on the turbo? I have heard a couple of different things about it. I thought it was there to cool the turbo? But I have heard people run without them also. The only time you shouldn't run water lines to your turbo is if your turbo doesn't have fittings for water lines. Some aftermarket turbos have water jackets, some don't. The ones that don't use larger volumes of oil to cool the bearing. All Mitsu turbos have water jackets to help keep the bearing cool. |
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Feb 9 2006, 12:19 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
So should I put a stock rebuild kit in it as well, since I will have it out? I am talking about the one Rob showed me in the other thread. I think it was like $500.00 for the kit. But I don't want to have to get into redoing the block or machining. I figure I have to start somewhere. I don't know,
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Feb 9 2006, 01:23 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Rebuild kit is up to you and how much time you want to spend. It would be smarter to do the rebuild while the engine is out but, if the motor runs fine and you don't have the $500 you might be able to get by with it.
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Feb 9 2006, 02:11 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Personally, I would never rebuild a motor without taking it to a machine shop to have it checked out and cleaned up.
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Feb 9 2006, 02:15 PM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Feb 9 2006, 02:11 PM) Personally, I would never rebuild a motor without taking it to a machine shop to have it checked out and cleaned up. Agreed. |
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Feb 9 2006, 02:41 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
OK, What about a balance shaft removale kit? What all besides the kit will I need? And maybe water pump?
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Feb 9 2006, 03:41 PM
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I would put a new water pump on since your that far into it anyway, and not have to worry about it again.
As for the manual tensioner precision has, he explained to me that you need to run without timing belt covers, cause you are constantly having to check and adjust the tension. I opted for a auto tensoner from the dealer since i wanted to leave my covers on and not have to mess with it. But my tensioner did cost 120 bucks, so i guess its your choice there. For the balance shaft removal, there are a kits you can buy, or if you want a cheap fix, you can cut the rear shaft from the oil pump drive and not hook the belt on the front balance shaft and your good to go. Thats what Precision did to mine. -------------------- 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS- Pretty daily driver
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Feb 9 2006, 03:55 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I will probly go with an auto tensioner. I will search for a balance shaft removal kit. Precisions way just don't sound safe to me.
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Feb 9 2006, 06:58 PM
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Web Administrator Yo! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 516 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Mackinaw, IL Member No.: 376 |
-------------------- Fast & Furious on the outside...DSM under the hood!!!
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Feb 9 2006, 10:44 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Hey thanks spider! That is a pretty good price, cheaper than what I thought it would be.
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Feb 10 2006, 09:39 AM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Bud, please check out www.vfaq.com, contact the vendors or search our archives. We don't mind answering the more technical questions, but a little research will go a long way in answering the simpler questions.
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Feb 10 2006, 07:23 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I did what you said, checked vfaq. There is alot of shit to do the balance shafts. -------------------- |
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Feb 10 2006, 08:47 PM
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Bud, that balance shaft is the smallest fish in your pond with the list of things you've got posted to do. You're looking at a lot of hours of labor. I'm not saying you shouldn't do this, in fact, I encourage such acts of insanity, but just be aware that there's A LOT of effort to be put forth here.
And don't worry about Nate. He should be more than friendly from now on. I "serviced his oil" last night. Then we had a big bowl of popcorn. And hugs. -------------------- QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Oct 31 2006, 12:41 AM)
thanks hcar.... I am still massaging that area trying to get it ready... ![]() |
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Feb 11 2006, 09:25 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I will be pulling the motor from the Fireball today.
Now with it out of the car I am going to change the timing belt. And maybe the balance shafts, I might as well since it is out. This might not go back in until next weekend. WOOO HOOOO time to buy parts, Just found out the money came in. -------------------- |
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Feb 11 2006, 10:39 AM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Feb 10 2006, 07:23 PM) I did what you said, checked vfaq. There is alot of shit to do the balance shafts. |
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Feb 11 2006, 11:27 AM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
Not meening to go off topic but are there any other sites besides vfaq and dsmtuners that offer technical and other help? I have read just about all of the stuff on vfaq but wanna keep learning.
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Feb 11 2006, 07:00 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I went to get a hoist and they didn't have one! Damnit!
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Feb 11 2006, 10:31 PM
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Web Administrator Yo! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 516 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Mackinaw, IL Member No.: 376 |
QUOTE (treydawgs4g63T @ Feb 11 2006, 12:27 PM) Not meening to go off topic but are there any other sites besides vfaq and dsmtuners that offer technical and other help? I have read just about all of the stuff on vfaq but wanna keep learning. dsmtalk.com is another very large site comparable to dsmtuners. -------------------- Fast & Furious on the outside...DSM under the hood!!!
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Feb 14 2006, 09:09 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Here it is guys,
I just wanted to let everyone know. I am being lazy! I still haven't got the motor out and it's freakin cold out. No heated garage or floor. So it may be awhile before I get to it. I did want to let all know that I have ordered everything I need to get it running. It all should be here by tomorrow! So I guess I will start on it tomorrow, -------------------- |
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Apr 13 2006, 07:37 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
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Apr 13 2006, 12:34 PM
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Wow, looking really good...Altho still got that yellow bumper, not so sure about that....
Turbo setup looking good....I've heard mixed things about the problems with running no intake pipe, just filter-compressor housing, but it sure as hell looks good.... This thing will be a 'budget beast' for sure... BTW: Purple and yellow? why -------------------- -Josh
*ChitownDSM* - '90 Talon Tsi AWD - PTE 50trim, FP Cams, Rebuilt 6 bolt ++ - '91 Talon Tsi AWD - Totalled (1/14/07) 12.79 @ 112.5mph on the stock clutch :) |
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Apr 13 2006, 06:30 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Well..................... Purple and Yellow are my two favorite colors. I have also implemented some Blue in there also. All of the IC piping should be powered Yellow when I am done. All of my couplers are blue, AFPR is blue. I have one red thing under the hood and that is the MBC that I got from miami.
And by the way miami thanks for the IC and piping it will come in handy for that turbo. Oh and by the way, It won't have yellow bumpers when it pulls out the driveway. I am in the stressing situation of installing a body kit on it. And I am not faring well with that at all. It is kicking my ass! But it will be done! -------------------- |
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Apr 14 2006, 01:41 AM
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Whatever your preference...This will definitely be 'unique', that's for sure...Purple and Yellow engine bay in a white car would not normally be my first thought for a good idea, but the fact that your doing it b/c its your favorite colors adds some purpose and background into the idea, so it becomes much more attractive
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*ChitownDSM* - '90 Talon Tsi AWD - PTE 50trim, FP Cams, Rebuilt 6 bolt ++ - '91 Talon Tsi AWD - Totalled (1/14/07) 12.79 @ 112.5mph on the stock clutch :) |
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Apr 16 2006, 09:13 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
cool video... looks like your project is well on it's way.... maybe I can make it down there sometime and give you a hand one of these sundays when I am off of work..... BTW what turbo is that????
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Apr 16 2006, 09:21 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
It is a Garrett .50 trim. And thanks for the props man. Here are some more pics for you to gander at.
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Apr 16 2006, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE (99Spyder @ Feb 11 2006, 10:31 PM) QUOTE (treydawgs4g63T @ Feb 11 2006, 12:27 PM) Not meening to go off topic but are there any other sites besides vfaq and dsmtuners that offer technical and other help? I have read just about all of the stuff on vfaq but wanna keep learning. dsmtalk.com is another very large site comparable to dsmtuners. I suppose DSMtalk is comparable, but in IMHO DSMtuners is better. I like the mods, the members, and the whole atmosphere of DSMtuners. Also, help is always available, as long as you play by the rules... Luda runs a tight ship. |
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Apr 17 2006, 11:54 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,985 Joined: 30-June 03 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 150 |
looks good bud... can't wait to see it in person
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Apr 17 2006, 12:28 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Looks good. Did you blast that intake and cyl head to get it so clean. Mine still looked like ass after I cleaned it, so I painted it like everything else.
Still not sure about the purple... -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Apr 17 2006, 02:13 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
No, I didn't blast the intake. I used Sea Foam and a brush to clean the intake inside and out. I let it soak on the inside for a couple of days. You would not believe all the black crap that came out of it.
The head was refreshed, that is why it looks so damn good. I picked it up for $163.00 from Reichert Engines & Machine Shop (217-725-2481) in Springfield. That was for the valve job, resurface, and pressure check. He said that he can do the port matching also. That will be done to the next head that I send to him. -------------------- |
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Apr 19 2006, 09:39 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Here is a list of the thing that I have purchased for this new project of mine. I am probably forgetting something.
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Apr 19 2006, 11:14 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
What's up with the "JDM FPR"? Is there a difference?
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Apr 20 2006, 04:38 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
The JDM AFPR is the one I bought off of ebay last year. Nothing special, I have to use it first and then see if it fails on me. Or acts like the 1G did when it was on there.
If it acts up I will let everyone know about it. And then I am after a good AFPR. I in my own mind think that the 1G was an ecu error. I think it would run until the ecu got hot and then started messing things up. It only happened to me on long drives. Like last year at SCDC. I got to just this side of Lincoln and it started to do the sputter thing to me. And that was the first experience with it doing that. Trust me Bret if it acts up, I will pitch it where it stops me. Then I will be on the phone or the net for a good one. And I will not cheap out on the part the second time around. -------------------- |
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Apr 20 2006, 06:38 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Eh, I wasn't trying to tell you to get something else. I honestly thought that you were talking about a Japanese O.E. FPR rather than the one you bought off of Ebay. I thought for a second it was a mod I hadn't heard about or something. Good luck and let us know how it turns out. It looks like you've got a pretty nice list there!
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Apr 20 2006, 06:24 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Hey turbohcar I didn't take it the way think I did. I was just saying I have my doubts right now about it.
Well I am in the FUCKED position again. I am working on getting a timing cover and a starter plate that goes to the 2g awd. I have two 1g starter plates but that won't work. So I still can't put the motor in. I have called every where I can think of. Belittle has both parts but that means I will have to drive to Iowa again. And that is a long ass boring drive! Because of my new found problems I am putting the 94 Bonneville SSEI back on the road. Then I will have two cars that run damn good! The Bonny will become the daily driver for sure. The Talon is going to be garaged from now on. It will only be brought out on special ocassions from now on. This way matbe I can save a little money in parts! Let me know what you guys think, or if you can help me out with the parts I need! Thanks! -------------------- |
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Apr 20 2006, 07:05 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Hey Bud, I've got my old cover. It's a little rough but if your desperate to get it on the road....
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91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Apr 20 2006, 07:10 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Can you get me a pic so I can see how bad. I hate to be pickie, but if it's worse off than mine than there is no reason to send it.
My hurry now is- I just opened my mail and I have to have this moved in ten days. My city police department sent me a notice. The fine will be a hundred and fifty for every car that is setting here. I don't have the extra money to pay for a fine right now. -------------------- |
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Apr 20 2006, 09:05 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
I PMed you some picts.
It's free if you can pick it up (Peoria Area), or just pay the shipping and I'll mail it. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Apr 20 2006, 09:17 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I will see if asiankid can pick it up for me. Thanks man i greatly appreciate that. Mine is like split in four different places. And it has belt marks on it from where they where rubbing.
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Apr 21 2006, 08:28 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Just pm me what you want to do.
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Apr 23 2006, 09:36 PM
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Apr 24 2006, 07:20 AM
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Apr 24 2006, 09:42 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Thanks Chris I got the cover today. It is in great shape.
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Apr 24 2006, 10:48 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
No problem...glad I could help!
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91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Jun 2 2006, 08:02 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
More freaking problems!
First I get it to run and idle. That was the good part of the day! While it was running I pulled the ground jumper wire off, Because I had to jump it. And the freaking thing dies! The damn altenator is not charging! And I blew a freaking oil line to the cooler also. This thing is really pissing on me!!!! realmad.gif And plus I don't understand the damn DSM Link program. No one around close to turn to for help either. IDK what to do now. I guess the first thing I will do is take the Fing altenator back to where I got it. Because it was bought right before I pulled the motor. So it is new!!!! -------------------- |
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Jun 23 2006, 09:40 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
My car is up and running now. I have been having problems getting it to wot. I was puzzled for at least a week about this and have posted logs on dsm link forums. No one could tell me why it would stutter and fall on it's face at wot. I have messed around trying to get the o2 sensor to work, also. I found out that was an error on my part while hooking up the stutter box. But back to the stutter on wot! I was out tuning tonight and drove to my inlaws out in the country. The car ran strong tonight, actually better than it has since I got it running. I left there (inlaws) house and did a strong 2nd gear pull. And OMG I think I have a horse. It didn't fall on it's face or stutter. So I am like maybe 2 miles from home and all of a sudden this thing starts running like I ran out off fuel. I told myself before I left town to put gas in it. That is the thought I had while it was doing this to me. I let up on the gas pedal so as to not use to much and get as far as I can towards my house. Amazingly I made it all the way home just by feathering the gas pedal. I pull in the drive at my house and expected it to die, no go it set there and idled. So I pop the hood and start looking at ic pipping. All the pipping was on and snug still. I just happen to glance at the real nice deal ebay bought FPR! That SOB was at zero and no fuel pressure. I pulled the vacuume line to check and see if it was that. No that's not it, then the car dies! I found my problem! Just so you know you get what you pay for on ebay! Don't ever, and I mean ever buy a JDM FPR from anyone on ebay regardless of the price and your finances. I have learned this the hard way! If it looks to good to be true than it is. I did make one great pull before it died on me. No harm no foul here about the fpr. I just take it as a lesson learned. I would hate for someone to make the same mistake I did. Now I need to buy a good fpr. Anyone have any advise on one that is not going to break the bank and still feed the fuel? This is my update! -------------------- |
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