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Jul 9 2004, 05:45 PM
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Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 31-January 03 From: Normal, IL. Member No.: 74 |
Yes I am truly looking into getting a 1g GSX. But I know very little about these cars or should I say the 4g63 other than what I have ran into when I worked at the plant. This ride is already modded fully internally and externally so does it still matter about the crank walk if it has different piston, rods and bearings? Also what block was it that they finally got this problem basically taken care of and how do you tell what block you have? Jesus I feel like Ive never worked on cars before but this motor is still pretty new too me and I want to make sure I get a good buy. So any input would be appreciated. Like drivetrain problems to look for and such.
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Jul 9 2004, 06:04 PM
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Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Mahomet Member No.: 213 |
You want a 6 bolt motor, they were in all cars before 93 i believe, but i know its close to there. Replacing the rods and pistons wont avoid crankwalk in anyway, but replacing the bearings may or may not help the motor last longer. Typically the 2nd gen cars are the ones that walk, but a few 1g's (94's mainly) have been known to have the problem.
-------------------- 1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
1992 Honda Civic CX Hatchback Crankwalk Free is the way to be! |
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Jul 9 2004, 08:02 PM
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Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 31-January 03 From: Normal, IL. Member No.: 74 |
I want to say this is a 92 I cant remember at this time if the headlights are pop up or not. LOL! I guess I should look at that. Also do you or anyone else know what an HKS Vein Pressure Converter is? I was thinking its another way of saying boost controller. I went to HKS but couldnt find it anywhere but did find a unit that looked similiar. Also this car has an HKS PFC F-Con and HKS external wastegate and blowoff valve. So it looks like they started modding with quality parts. Plus it has a turbo upgrade but Im not sure what it is although it does still have the diamond stars on it. So I was thinking 20g because it is much much bigger than my 14b.
So how do you know what block youve got? Im guessing you wont know until you open it up or take the trans off right? Any info is welcomed I would really like to learn as much as possible. I am trying to do research but not really sure on what to look for seeign that this is a completely different set up than what Im really use too. As in its not a 420A or a Big Block. LOL! |
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Jul 9 2004, 08:08 PM
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![]() DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 365 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Mt. Sterling, IL Member No.: 60 |
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/early-late-engine.html
anything before half way though the year of 92 would be the 6 bolt block, anything after that would be 7 bolt. So some 92's have the 7 bolt, some have 6 -------------------- 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS- Pretty daily driver
--------------------------------------- 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX- Traded in, buhbye little buddy 1994 Plymouth Laser- 1.8 auto. 1994 Mitsubishi Eclipse- GS auto. RIP 12/5/02 |
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Jul 9 2004, 09:14 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 658 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Pekin Member No.: 181 |
I have a beauty up for sale as we speak. ready for the big turbo. got the fuel, driveline, and exhaust.
check out my f/s thread. http://www.dsmcentral.com/invision/index.p...owtopic=1974&s= |
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Jul 9 2004, 09:21 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
The engine code is written on the side of the block hiding just behind the 02 housing. It's not going to say six bolt or seven bolt (crankwalk prone) in that engine code though. The easiest way you'll be able to tell is by year. 92 or previous = 6 bolt, 93 or later = 7 bolt
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Jul 9 2004, 10:43 PM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 30-October 02 Member No.: 34 |
VPC= elimate the factory MAS, be able to vent the BOV. Used to be popular before the MAFT translator hit the scene.
Halfway step to a standalone but easy to tune with simple knobs. (poor analogy) I think Daryl used to run an SAFC VPC combo on his old set-up a couple of years back. Also, make sure it's an early '92 as they were putting the 7bolts in during the last half the year I believe. -------------------- |
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Jul 10 2004, 08:11 AM
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Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 31-January 03 From: Normal, IL. Member No.: 74 |
I have the vin code would that make a difference to anyone on the information they could find out? When I worked there that would always help but Im thinking that getting to that old of a record would be difficult now. So Im taking it that there isnt anything to look for that could be bad other than finding out exactly what year it is and when it was built. There is nothing bad to look for in the drivetrain? Its a very clean engine with no oil leaks or anything whatsoever. Im thinking this could be a good buy.
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Jul 10 2004, 03:49 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 658 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Pekin Member No.: 181 |
only downside is your trusting someone else's work. unless its someone you know I wouldnt trust it.
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Jul 10 2004, 03:57 PM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Peoria Member No.: 221 |
i agree with justin, that car could be all..@#$@#Rigged
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Jul 10 2004, 04:00 PM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 972 Joined: 30-October 02 Member No.: 34 |
How about we just say: 'jury rigged', 'Hacked', or 'poorly installed'
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Jul 10 2004, 04:27 PM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 21 |
I'll sell you my TSi AWD for $2900!
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2008 Harley Nightster 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notch |
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Jul 10 2004, 04:32 PM
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Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 658 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Pekin Member No.: 181 |
QUOTE (mark95turbo @ Jul 10 2004, 05:27 PM) I'll sell you my TSi AWD for $2900! dang I cant compete with that price. |
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Jul 10 2004, 04:33 PM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 810 Joined: 9-July 03 From: Bloomington, IL Member No.: 151 |
QUOTE (KOU In3 @ Jul 10 2004, 04:00 PM) How about we just say: 'jury rigged', 'Hacked', or 'poorly installed' |
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Jul 10 2004, 08:44 PM
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DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Peoria Member No.: 221 |
sorry about the bad language boys, i will try to refrain from it
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Electric Blue Pearl Mopar true cold air intake Mopar cat-delete downpipe Borla exhaust Hard intercooler pipes Tokico illumina springs and struts Tinted front and rear windows ASA ten spokes with crome lip 17inch Michelin Piliot Exaltos 205-50-zr17 |
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Jul 10 2004, 11:19 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
The doorjam on the drivers side towards the back of the car shows the build date. You should be able to tell from that.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Jul 12 2004, 04:12 PM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
You can tell for sure by looking at the oil pan. See here: http://www.vfaq.com/mods/early-late-engine.html
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Jul 12 2004, 06:34 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Nice info there natedogg. I'd never heard of that one before.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Jul 12 2004, 07:27 PM
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Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 12-February 04 From: Normal/Bloomington Member No.: 236 |
About whos worked on it, i know that temp_me knows who has done all the work on it, and he knows it was done right.
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Jul 17 2004, 02:30 PM
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Person of Wisdom ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 31-January 03 From: Normal, IL. Member No.: 74 |
The car has flip up headlights and when I get the chance I will check the oil pan. Thats the kind of info I was looking for so thank you very much Natedogg for helping out. From talking to the original engine builder this car may need the lower end rebuilt. So Im thinking about replacing the crank and bearings. Can you balance these cranks? Also I am waiting on a price from KOU on the crank and bearing prices. This doesnt need to be replaced other than we know how long and hard its been driven.
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