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Feb 9 2006, 06:37 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Feb 8 2006, 06:48 PM) So should I still buy a wide band for this stocker? Q> -------------------- |
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Feb 9 2006, 07:35 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
I'd seriously re-think your mod list if you're budget's getting axed. Things like the DSM Link and the wideband o2 are great tools, but may be overkill in your situation. I think if I were you, I'd find a set of 550's or 650's and a nice evo III 16g along with the supporting mods and shoot for some low 12 sec 1/4's. A lot can be done for very little with these cars, the reason most of us are here. Just seems to me like you're starting to put the cart before the horse...
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Feb 9 2006, 07:41 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Huh, That is what she said Rob, lol. The DSM Link is still on because it will make this 6 bolt swap alot easier. Well with out check engine lights. I am going to start stock, Show her this damn thing is going to run and then I will start mods.
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Feb 9 2006, 09:29 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I have a couple more questions I need to ask.
1. Should I leave the water lines on the turbo? I have heard a couple of different things about it. I thought it was there to cool the turbo? But I have heard people run without them also. 2. I am going to change the timing belt and all. I have a timing belt kit w/o the tensioner. Precision says the make a manual timing belt tensioner, I was thinking about buying. Good idea or not? 3. This one is for AWD DSM 1. Could you please pm me, I would like to know if you would do my timing belt for me, and what it will cost me to get it done. Would I need to bring it to you, or could you come to me? Just let me know, please. -------------------- |
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Feb 9 2006, 09:59 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Timing belts aren't really that hard, expescially when they're out of the car. I'd be more than happy to help if you really think you need it though.
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Feb 9 2006, 11:11 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
#1. Leave the water lines on the turbocharger. It will help cool the turbo, which helps cool the intake temperature, which helps you make more power with less knock.
#3. Rob does top notch work. Don't let him be modest. He does super work for a small amount of money. He helped me do the headgasket, ARP headstuds, and timing belt on my car (along with all the work on the axles we had to do at 8pm on the side of I-74). Thanks again Rob! -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 9 2006, 12:03 PM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (BudmannG @ Feb 9 2006, 09:29 AM) I have a couple more questions I need to ask. 1. Should I leave the water lines on the turbo? I have heard a couple of different things about it. I thought it was there to cool the turbo? But I have heard people run without them also. The only time you shouldn't run water lines to your turbo is if your turbo doesn't have fittings for water lines. Some aftermarket turbos have water jackets, some don't. The ones that don't use larger volumes of oil to cool the bearing. All Mitsu turbos have water jackets to help keep the bearing cool. |
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Feb 9 2006, 12:19 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
So should I put a stock rebuild kit in it as well, since I will have it out? I am talking about the one Rob showed me in the other thread. I think it was like $500.00 for the kit. But I don't want to have to get into redoing the block or machining. I figure I have to start somewhere. I don't know,
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Feb 9 2006, 01:23 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Rebuild kit is up to you and how much time you want to spend. It would be smarter to do the rebuild while the engine is out but, if the motor runs fine and you don't have the $500 you might be able to get by with it.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Feb 9 2006, 02:11 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Personally, I would never rebuild a motor without taking it to a machine shop to have it checked out and cleaned up.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Feb 9 2006, 02:15 PM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Feb 9 2006, 02:11 PM) Personally, I would never rebuild a motor without taking it to a machine shop to have it checked out and cleaned up. Agreed. |
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Feb 9 2006, 02:41 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
OK, What about a balance shaft removale kit? What all besides the kit will I need? And maybe water pump?
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Feb 9 2006, 03:41 PM
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![]() DSMCentral Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 365 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Mt. Sterling, IL Member No.: 60 |
I would put a new water pump on since your that far into it anyway, and not have to worry about it again.
As for the manual tensioner precision has, he explained to me that you need to run without timing belt covers, cause you are constantly having to check and adjust the tension. I opted for a auto tensoner from the dealer since i wanted to leave my covers on and not have to mess with it. But my tensioner did cost 120 bucks, so i guess its your choice there. For the balance shaft removal, there are a kits you can buy, or if you want a cheap fix, you can cut the rear shaft from the oil pump drive and not hook the belt on the front balance shaft and your good to go. Thats what Precision did to mine. -------------------- 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS- Pretty daily driver
--------------------------------------- 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX- Traded in, buhbye little buddy 1994 Plymouth Laser- 1.8 auto. 1994 Mitsubishi Eclipse- GS auto. RIP 12/5/02 |
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Feb 9 2006, 03:55 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I will probly go with an auto tensioner. I will search for a balance shaft removal kit. Precisions way just don't sound safe to me.
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Feb 9 2006, 06:58 PM
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Web Administrator Yo! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 516 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Mackinaw, IL Member No.: 376 |
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Feb 9 2006, 10:44 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
Hey thanks spider! That is a pretty good price, cheaper than what I thought it would be.
If I do the balance shafts what gaskets will I have to buy? Or does the kit come with it? -------------------- |
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Feb 10 2006, 09:39 AM
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![]() Zen Master DSM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
Bud, please check out www.vfaq.com, contact the vendors or search our archives. We don't mind answering the more technical questions, but a little research will go a long way in answering the simpler questions.
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Feb 10 2006, 07:23 PM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I did what you said, checked vfaq. There is alot of shit to do the balance shafts. -------------------- |
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Feb 10 2006, 08:47 PM
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![]() Post Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 780 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 338 |
Bud, that balance shaft is the smallest fish in your pond with the list of things you've got posted to do. You're looking at a lot of hours of labor. I'm not saying you shouldn't do this, in fact, I encourage such acts of insanity, but just be aware that there's A LOT of effort to be put forth here.
And don't worry about Nate. He should be more than friendly from now on. I "serviced his oil" last night. Then we had a big bowl of popcorn. And hugs. -------------------- QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Oct 31 2006, 12:41 AM)
thanks hcar.... I am still massaging that area trying to get it ready... ![]() |
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Feb 11 2006, 09:25 AM
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![]() Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I will be pulling the motor from the Fireball today.
Now with it out of the car I am going to change the timing belt. And maybe the balance shafts, I might as well since it is out. This might not go back in until next weekend. WOOO HOOOO time to buy parts, Just found out the money came in. -------------------- |
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