Tires tires, what to get? Options

[wortdog]

I'm in need of new tires for the Talon, the OEM Goodyears are quite toasted.

Does anybody have a good stock size tire they'd recommend?

I was looking at maybe the BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDWS, the Continental
ContiExtremeContact, the Kumho ECSTA KH11, or the Kumho
Ecsta MX.

[zach]

I strongly recomend the toyo proxes fz4 , Its an awesome tire, I used them on my prelude, the suspension was set up and it would turn like mad. there about 120 a piece.

[mark95turbo]

I would strongly recommend Falken tires. I absolutely love my Ziex 512's and am planning on getting the Azenis for my autocross wheels. They have this neat little rim protector feature too that has actually saved my wheels on my GST a few times from some nasty curb rash. Oh yeah, and I got the Ziex 512 205\55's for 16's for 200 mounted and balanced. They are extremely sticky, great in wet weather, and very aggressive looking. Ide say the only drawback is that they tend to throw alot of stuff up onto the car.

[awd4kicks]

I'm very interested in your selection Wortdogg. Especially after you commented how my crappy Good Years weren't helping me any at the Autocross training.

I need to wrap my RX7 wheels with some tread and start wearing them again!

[Jason ESi-T]

I love the Kumho's I've been using over the past couple of years. Pretty decent traction and wear, at a great price and terrific look. You're AWD, so I'd just get anything that's decent.

[wortdog]

Well, its not a track car (or even an Auto-X car) by any stretch. It still has the stock suspension with I believe the original or nearly original shocks. So I'm mostly looking for an all season tire that doesn't have tons of sidewall flex while retaining decent treadlife. Since this is my winter car, I'm giving some extra weighting to snow traction also. Winter is definately the car's favorite season

I was mostly commenting on how crappy MY Goodyears are, they have as much cornering grip as an average minivan tire. But, you're right, they certainly don't help much for autocrossing, assuming you have the OEM Goodyear RS-A.

[KOU In3]

Hey Marcus, on those RX7 wheels, any idea if you've got the PFD wheels or regular FD wheels? Just curious.

To get back on track. My uninformed self is probably going Pirelli P7000 just because I read they were currently the lightest ones made.

[awd4kicks]

KOU, I'm not sure what PFD or FD reffers to. As far as tires I had Pirelli P7000 on my RX7 wheels. I like the way they look, but I couldn't get those things to stick in the corners and AWD launches were just spin fests! My cheap ol' Good Years definitly hook-up better than the Pirelli's by a long shot. I wont buy those again.

[KOU In3]

Looks like I'll take your advice on the Pirelli's Marcus. I'll trust your experience over my advertisement reading any day.

On the PFD wheels. Look on the wheel next to your valve stem. Cast into the wheel on one side of it will say PFD on some of the 3rd gen RX7 wheels. These are the 13 pound rims. The other 3rd gen RX7 rims look the same on the outside but have more reiforcement on the back end and weigh in the neighborhood of high 15 pounds or so

[wortdog]

Yeah, the '93 RX-7 my friend (with a 96 GS-T) just bought has the PFD 13lb wheels. The wheels also have a 1992 date of manufacture on them.

Also, mounted on those PFD wheels were Toyo Proxes FZ4, and I must say the car was quite a pleasure to drive with these on it. Not even that much wheelspin in 1st gear, at least to other 3G RX-7's I've ridden in. Sidewall flex was pretty minimal during highspeed lane changes, etc. I think these might be a little too expensive for my Talon though at $120 a piece.

On our way back to Chambana, we ran into a 90-91 AWD Talon that wanted to play with the GS-T some. He had no exhaust beyond the downpipe, an S-AFC, triple gauge pillar, and hoodpins, of all things. Who knows what was under the hood. The stocker GS-T held its own pretty well.

[awd4kicks]

On the PFD wheels.  Look on the wheel next to your valve stem.  Cast into the wheel on one side of it will say PFD on some of the 3rd gen RX7 wheels.  These are the 13 pound rims.  The other 3rd gen RX7 rims look the same on the outside but have more reiforcement on the back end and weigh in the neighborhood of high 15 pounds or so

S W E E T !!!!

I checked my RX7 rims tonight. They are the ultimate 'PFD' 13 lb. wheels! I'm stoked and I've owned them for more than a year now. What a deal. These wheels will be getting mounted before the SCDS in September!

BTW - I have (3) Pirelli P7000's 225-16-50's that I want to get rid of if anyone is interested.

[KOU In3]

What's the wear like on those pirellis? If they're new enough I'd almost be tempted to just buy a 4th one new and put them on one of the sets I've got sitting around.

Oh, and Eric, I should have a set of 'new' all-season tires for sale pretty shortly. I'll have to double check though on the brand as they're currently sitting on my car in Peoria.

[awd4kicks]

I'm not sure I would consider them almost new, but I bet theres at least 3/4 of the tread left. They look to be in very good shape, but you can come see for yourself anytime.

[KOU In3]

Well it looks like I have another Peoria trip in store this week on either Thurs or Fri as it is. Maybe I can swing by depending on your schedule.

Speaking of which I never got a chance to say thanks for the reccomendation on Avanni's (sp?) last time. We had a good time with everyone. Andrea mentioned that your kids were amazingly well behaved by the way.

[awd4kicks]

Thanks! And Avanti's is a staple for us around this area.

I'll be available Friday and part of Thursday evening if you can set something up with me ahead of time.

[natedogg]

I've been looking at some new tires too since the accident. I'm looking at the Dunlop SP sport 9000's, the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3, or the Kumho Ecsta MX's. I think I'll probably go with the Kumho's for the price, downside is it looks like they will wear faster.

[awd4kicks]

Oops, I take what I said about my old P7000's back. I checked them out last night and there are only two descent tires and the tread wear is closer to 1/2 of their total. Sorry for the missleading information.

[awd4kicks]

I weighed the 1993 RX7 PFD wheels I have today at work on the shipping scale. With the valve stem, balance weights, and brake/road scum they weigh almost exactly 15lb. each. It may not be 13lb. but heck that's at least 1lb lighter than I thought they were to begin with!!! Not bad.

[akamiami]

bringing this one back from the dead......

wort, what did you end up choosing and what are your impressions?

I'm looking for 275/40/17's for the evo and I'm choosing to be honest with myself and get tires that fit my average use, rather than what I'd just like to be able to say I'm running. So, I'll be looking for somethin with a decent treadwear rating (360 and above), all season characteristics (particularly considering the wide nature of the tires), and of course, the budget is a factor as well.

At this point, I'm looking at Kumho Ecsta ASX's, Continental ContiExtremeContact, Avon
Tech M550 A/S, Sumitomo HTR+, and finally, the BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDWS. If I had to choose at this moment, I'd go with the Kumhos as I think they'll be comparable to the Supra 712's I've had a lot of experience with, but there seems to be a lot of good offerings out there.

Anybody with experience care to chime in? I figure tire choice is a crucial decision so I want to have as much information as possible.

[JBone]

I don't think I have heard a bad review at all with the BFG's. However, I don't think they are reccomended for snow use.