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Jan 19 2006, 05:00 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 10-March 05 Member No.: 470 |
hello all, i've encountered a problem. Last night i got into my car and it wouldnt start. It just clicks from under the dash when you turn it over. The starter doesnt engage only the clicking noise.Its never did this before,so has anyone had this problem before and what should i check? And yes i know dsm's break themselves
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Jan 19 2006, 05:08 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Sounds like a battery/alternator problem, but thats only my first guess. Try jumping it. If that doesn't work, try swapping ECUs to see if that works. It may be the source of your clicking noise.
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Jan 19 2006, 05:15 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 10-March 05 Member No.: 470 |
i guess i should have stated the car has power, just when you bump it to start it clicks. Also i can push start it
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Jan 19 2006, 05:47 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Try tapping on the starter itself with something hard while a friend cranks for you. That way you can rule out the starter if it doesn't work. If it does start or try to kick over, it's probably the starter.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Jan 19 2006, 06:04 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 780 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 338 |
I had the bolt connecting the power cable to the starter back out on me. Make sure it's tightened down well so the starter is getting good flow. Also make sure that you're not having a problem with the clutch engagement switch.
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thanks hcar.... I am still massaging that area trying to get it ready... |
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Jan 19 2006, 06:36 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 365 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Mt. Sterling, IL Member No.: 60 |
QUOTE (The Iron Goat @ Jan 19 2006, 06:04 PM) I had the bolt connecting the power cable to the starter back out on me. Make sure it's tightened down well so the starter is getting good flow. Also make sure that you're not having a problem with the clutch engagement switch. Ive had the plastic button that engages the clutch switch fall off my clutch pedal before, i put a new starter in and retraced the wiring before i found the button in my carpet. -------------------- 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS- Pretty daily driver
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Jan 19 2006, 09:53 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 810 Joined: 9-July 03 From: Bloomington, IL Member No.: 151 |
QUOTE (90GSX @ Jan 19 2006, 06:36 PM) QUOTE (The Iron Goat @ Jan 19 2006, 06:04 PM) I had the bolt connecting the power cable to the starter back out on me. Make sure it's tightened down well so the starter is getting good flow. Also make sure that you're not having a problem with the clutch engagement switch. Ive had the plastic button that engages the clutch switch fall off my clutch pedal before, i put a new starter in and retraced the wiring before i found the button in my carpet. I had something similar happen once, and it wouldn't stay in. I think I ended up ducttaping it. |
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Jan 20 2006, 05:20 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Moderators Posts: 1,156 Joined: 23-September 02 Member No.: 16 |
the car can have enough juice to run accesories and toggle the relay but not enough to engage the starter motor as well. what's the voltmeter say when you place it on the battery?
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Jan 20 2006, 07:30 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (akamiami @ Jan 20 2006, 05:20 AM) the car can have enough juice to run accesories and toggle the relay but not enough to engage the starter motor as well. what's the voltmeter say when you place it on the battery? 100% right..... you've got a dead battery most likely. -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Jan 21 2006, 11:06 AM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 10-March 05 Member No.: 470 |
well no luck yet, i manually engaged the clutch switch, didnt start. i double checked the wires on the starter all are tight. the battery is less than a year old but i still took it out and had it tested check fine. so anyone want to buy a car runs great must push start j/k. anymore ideas guys
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Jan 21 2006, 11:25 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
I am thinking that if you tried to jump start it and it didn't start, It would be the starter.
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Jan 21 2006, 04:19 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 780 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 338 |
Age doesn't matter on a batter or anything else. It can still fail at any time. Also untrue about the jumpstart theory, bud. If the battery's trashed, jumping it won't do any good. At least take it by autozone or something and have them put their little machine on it.
-------------------- QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Oct 31 2006, 12:41 AM)
thanks hcar.... I am still massaging that area trying to get it ready... |
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Jan 21 2006, 06:04 PM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (kup125 @ Jan 21 2006, 11:06 AM) well no luck yet, i manually engaged the clutch switch, didnt start. i double checked the wires on the starter all are tight. the battery is less than a year old but i still took it out and had it tested check fine. so anyone want to buy a car runs great must push start j/k. anymore ideas guys He did say he had the battery tested and it checked out. The starter went out on one of my previous DSM's. That's what I would guess. You can check it by manually putting 12 volts across the leads on the starter. It will be easier to check if you take it out. Just be careful to keep your fingers away from the gear and use fairly thick guage wire because the starter motor creates a large electrical load. |
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Jan 23 2006, 05:09 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 75 Joined: 29-April 04 From: Crystal Lake, IL Member No.: 284 |
99% sure its starter solenoid from what has been said.
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Jan 23 2006, 05:29 PM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 5-May 03 From: Granite City, IL Member No.: 128 |
check the wires going to your starter. My guess is the blue wire fell off the solenoid. It happens all the time. Thats the very first thing I would check. Obviously the ignition solenoid is getting current its just not sending it to the starter solenoid. Ive had that wire fall off all 4 dsm's ive owned.
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Jan 23 2006, 06:47 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,108 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Waverly, Illinois Member No.: 636 |
If you would like I have a starter in Springfield that you could possibly pick up and try. Just let me know if you want to try it.
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Jan 23 2006, 08:00 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 10-March 05 Member No.: 470 |
i'll be looking at it again tomorrow, so i'll let you now what i find
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Jan 27 2006, 06:39 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 10-March 05 Member No.: 470 |
well i ended up taking the starter off and found the problem. it was the wire connector inside the plug on the solenoid that had broke off. so a $0.29 fix, anyways thanks for all the ideas guys
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