Hey guys i am looking for a new car well not new but new to me i want a dsm that is turbo'od and doesnt have to be all wheel drive but would be nice i want something that needs no or minimal work but is also fast, doesnt have to have the best body either but also would be nice too
MUST be five speed and i am looking to spend anywhere from $1500-$2400 on it well let me know what you have or if you know anyone who has what i am looking for hit me back-resalturbo-

You'll need more money for something in great shape. Dont' buy something cheap. It may be more work than it's worth.

Bullsh*t...you can get a nice 1G AWD for that money. You may have to wait and look around for a little while, but you should be able to get a good-looking, good running car for around $2500. Or you can spend at the lower end of your limit and get one that might need a little work.

You get what you pay for....

Me and my father are asking $3750 for our stock 92 Talon with a rebuilt tranny. 5spd, AWD, 6-bolt/4-bolt combo. Basically the holy grail of DSM's....

How long has it been for sale? Rebuilt tranny, AWD, 6bolt/4bolt, yes, that IS worth a little more...I'm just saying that it IS POSSIBLE to get a nice 1G for what he's looking to spend. They only Blue Book for around that much, depending on condition.

Stock? What year?

You can find something dude. I got my 91 TSi AWD for $2700. It has the 6bolt\4bolt combo and the motor had 34K on the bottom end, and 15K on the top end. The tranny shifts (or used to when I got it) fine, and it had plenty of mods. 3" turbo back exhaust, MBC@16PSI, ported EVOIII O2 housing, Ported turbine housing on a new 14B turbo with an enlarged wastegate flapper, yadda, yadda. The body is a bit rusty, but it runs good, and im very happy with it.

Been up for about a month. Haven't been pushing it because I just got the tranny back in today. It should be on the road tomorrow.

Blue book on this one is about $2500... dealer would want like 6k for it. That's just what I feel it's worth. Always open to offers...

That's ALL I'm saying...you don't have to spend a lot of money to get a good one.

resalturbo, shop around and you'll get what you're looking for: a good car at a good price. There's at least 4 on the trader right now for $2500 or less that would be worth looking into. And don't be afraid to negotiate price...just because a car has recently had a timing belt change (for example) DOES NOT mean it's worth $500 over Blue Book value. I would want to redo it myself, anyway, just to make sure it's actually been done, and done right.

Let's keep our eyes open for him guys. Like he said it doesn't have to be AWD either.

thanks guys i will keep my my eyes open and you guys let me know if you find anything in my means and what i want. what trader should i look in? not much in the tradin post..-resalturbo-

www.dsmtrader.com

I agree with that. Spend the extra cash and you will be happier.

http://www.gopartstrader.com/cgi-bin/suite...00a4b9920839cfa

http://www.gopartstrader.com/cgi-bin/suite...00a4b9920839cfa

http://www.gopartstrader.com/cgi-bin/suite...00a4b9920839cfa

http://www.gopartstrader.com/cgi-bin/suite...00a4b9920839cfa

Here, I also found this one on GatewayDSM...just posted it tonight:


FOR SALE: 1991 Eagle Talon Tsi Awd. Black/Silver bottom 109,XXX miles. 5Spd. Make offer, serious offers only on this sad day.

Spread the word.

She's been fun.

Tim Ellis
1.314.707.7000

Not sure the guy wants to drive to Utah or Florida to pick up a car that won't or *might* make it home... Guys, I've owned 11 of these things, you get what you pay for. You get all excited over a $1500 deal, only to find out that it needs $2000 worth of work... been there, done that a few times.

My suggestions -
#1 Keep it local... It's a lot better when you don't have to drive 8 hours to pick up a car, I've done that.... not worth it.

#2 Take someone who really knows their stuff along.... There's a lot of us who would be more than willing to tag along and make sure you won't take it up the tailpipe when you get the thing home.

Good luck in your search, and I'll keep my eyes out for you....

For a car that's not local, of course you would need to get pictures and talk with the seller on the phone (but that's really true of any major purchase you make). Maybe even run a Carfax check on it. Be smart and do everything you can not to get screwed over.

Are you under the impression that you can't "get it up the tailpipe" locally? That's a rather naive attitude. If you only look locally, you're severely limiting your options. If you really want one of these cars, you just MAY have to work a little to get it.

the 237hp at the wheels is good but what really amazed me was the torque. Didn't it throw down like 268 pound/feet of torque or something?

If your patient and prompt when the target is found, you can get a good deal with some knowledge and bardering skills. I personally wouldn't disregard 'good deals' because of travel time either. As IC said you have to do your homework and be prepaired to walk if it's not what you want.

i am willing to travel but dont want to go to far out of state for a car like utah or florida is way to far. I am still looking i emailed a few people and hoping for replies thanks for your help guys.....-resalturbo-

hey who wants to go with me to check this one out maybe tomorrow (monday) sometime it is about a two hour trip??? anyone willing to help a brother out is it even worth the trip to look at it?? let me know
-resalturbo-

I'll have the beater Talon up for sale soon, returned to stock, with the kinks worked out, for the upper end of that pricerange ($2500).

PM me if you want more info. Some basic pics are up on the site.

Also, AWD4kicks is dead on in his post there. Very sound advice.

here is what i was talkin about my stupid ass forgot to post the site
sorry guys
let me know if you think it is worth it i offered 2000 too much or ok???

http://www.gopartstrader.com/cgi-bin/suite...category_id=106

If it's got the 13g turbo, it's probably an automatic, don't you think?

it says 13b not 13g its by aurora illinois 2 hour trip from peoria doin the speed limit
well if i can get ahold of him i will go on monday and check it out what should i look for or look out for on this thing??

If it's the 13g my concern would be that's it an auto. Everything that that entails (not crazy about the auto trans but also has smaller injectors, etc.). But hey, if you're up for an auto, go for it. Unless the mistype was on the 13 and he meant 14B (doubt it though). Either way, it's worth it to see a few to compare. There's one listed on a new thread on this board too that sounds worth checking out. I think focused is in Champaign. If the car is here, I cam help take a look if you want.

I wouldn't think twice about a mere 2 hour trip to pick up a good DSM. Heck we're headed to Kansas this week on a parts run. And have been to MI to pick up turbos before.

As to the last half:- sounds like the Spyonyou motto. Not bad advice though. Seems to work well for ya and your fleet of supercars. Darn P-town high-rollers.

in the add it says it has a new five speed tranny in it so i am not to worried about it.
still trying to get ahold of him though.
-resalturbo-

As long as it's not an automatic.

You da highroller. Everytime I turn around you got a new part or another rolling chassis, or another running DSM. You've bought more DSM's and DSM parts (OEM and aftermarket) in a year than I have in the 4 years that I've been into DSM's. You da highroller.

That's what I was saying about the 13x turbo...they're in autos most of the time.

Have fun on your Kansas run...we just got back from southern MO where we picked up a '91 FWD Auto, w/an unused HRC Super16G (PM me if anyone needs parts) . Don't forget to bring your "road kit"...our only problem on THIS trip was a flat tire on the truck we used for towing. Been to KY to pick up a parts car, and I got the Talon that I drive out in VA (that sucked...WAY too long of a drive )

hey guys what do you think of this one ??

http://www.gopartstrader.com/cgi-bin/suite...00cca4b4e4cb17d


he sent me an email with a few pics and it dont look too bad, i requested more pics i will probly offer 2200 or 2300 cash hopefully he'll take it, let me know i am gonna try to go next sunday if i can is anybody up for a drive????
-resalturbo-

The ad says it's a '93. I would definately check the build date to confirm a 6bolt in there. If the build date is Apr/May of '92, you'll have to investigate more closely.

Check this link:
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/early-late-engine.html

Depends a lot on your goals and budget with the car too. If you're shooting for 12's at all I'd start with an AWD personally. Not that it's not doable (lest I start that whole discussion), just that it's cheaper in an AWD. Mid 13's are pretty darn hard in a FWD too. Just ask Spy about his times with 270lb/ft in a FWD.

If the car is clean, has good compression, and a few mods though, your offer is reasonable. If it has a six bolt.

Just my $0.02 though

thanks man for the info

do i want a six or seven bolt??
what is the difference besides the bolt pattern of cource??

You definately want a six bolt.

Short answer on the difference is that the 7 bolt is prone to crankwalk. A 7 bolt motor will cut the value of your 1G roughly in half from my buying experiences.

i email'ed him and asked him, just waiting on a reply, like always, well thanks for the advice, i owe you one. -resalturbo-

yea i was checking that one in aurora out, it doesn't run and it prolly has more problems.

man do i hate people that post there car for sale and hope to really sell it and then there is a buyer and you cant get ahold of the seller. i found what i thought are some good deals and are worth looking at but the sellers wont respond, like one guy left his phone# only to find out it had been disconected
so some advice: if you are gonna sell a car---answer your phone, give the right number and answer your email. man do i hate stupid people.
so to all of the sellers out there i understand that some of the cars may already have been sold but still email me and tell me that so i dont stay interested. well peace out -resalturbo-

well i am gonna take a road trip up to the suberbs of chicago on sunday to take a look at a 93 talon tsi with 130 k and a bunch of mods and a 92 gst with only 107k and no mods. the 93 talon is a 7 bolt and wants 2200 and the 92 dont know what it is and the ac needs recharged but will take 2000 and is a dealer and i have to wait till the title gets in to actually buy it. so i will more than likely get the 93 he said all of the maintenance is kept up on it like the timing belt is changed and stuff like that but it is a 7 bolt--does that mean it WILL crank walk or is just more than likely to crankwalk.
which way should i go guys??? would anyone be willing to take a road trip with me to check the 93 out?? just let me know
-resalturbo-

btw both ARE 5 speeds

if it were me, i'd take the 92 rather than the '93 with a 7 bolt.

the '92 you said was still virgin, no mods = no prior owner mod screw-ups.

and the '92 is definately a 6 bolt unless it has had a motor swap

i am pretty sure the 92 is sold and they guy with the 93 says it needs nothing so i am at least gonna look at it. if i like what i see then it is mine, the 92 guy is a dealer and kind of hard to get ahold of. soo do all 7 bolts crank walk or just most or just some?? if i get it how long do i have before it does or might do it. it has 130k on the motor.

I think I heard that about half of the 7-bolts walk...but if it hasn't yet @ 130k, chances are that it won't. I'm just going off of what I've heard on this walking issue, so don't flame me too bad if anyone knows otherwise. I had heard that if the engine hasn't walked by around 40k, it probably won't.

You're right, it 'might' not walk. But if it were me, I'd start with the right platform. The point of a 1G is the essentially bullet-proof 6bolt IMHO. Take that away and...

Personally I just wouldn't bother with a 7bolt in a 1G.

If you do, I still contend it's worth about half of a 6bolt 1G so I would advise to offer accordindgly.

Don't mean to ruffle any feathers. Just my $0.02

Point taken (and agreed with), Travis. Just trying to answer his questions.

My 95 has 144k on it, and I'm just starting to see signs that it might be walking. Had a buddy with a 93 that walked with around 70k on it, and a 95 with 60k on it that walked. 7-bolt=crankwalk=new motor in the end.....

my laser is a 93 so is it the 7 bolt then??? it has 112k on it and had no probs with the motor just the tranny. do you guys think it will crank walk???

i believe crankwalk is a result of oil starvation to the thrust bearings, wich happens when there is an obstruction or there is enough wear to lose some pressure.

I like to think that the guys with high miles on their seven bolt, haven been given more time to get rid of it on their own time, rather than haveing to fix it now.

well I found a 92 laser fwd five speed turbo with only 97k on the motor and they are asking 2k for it so i can probly get it for 1800 if i try.

nevermind i just found out is has a bad turbo and is in need of a head gasket so it needs too much work....-resalturbo-

According to this site:
http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/crankwalktheory.htm
crankwalk only started to show up in 2G and later cars; not on all 7 bolts. They've got pictures of blocks from a 93 and 95 cut in half so they could figure out what was happening to the 95 and later cars that wasn't happening to the 94 and earlier cars. Basically, they believe the oil squirters were changed in 95 and that is what is causing the oil starvation and eventual crankwalk. They easily get stuck in the open position which means that the main bearings get less oil pressure than they should; even at low pressure times like idle.

I'm not saying the 7 bolts are as good as the 6 bolts but that crankwalk isn't a necessarily a sure thing with all 7 bolts.