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 Mar 26 2006, 10:04 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard  Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10  |
That's right... I'm back. So what if it's just another broke ass DSM cluttering up my garage right now? It won't be for long.... I promise.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 26 2006, 10:13 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
it's one hell of a car
*scroll down for spy photos* 
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Mar 26 2006, 10:50 PM
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 Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 14-November 04 Member No.: 386 |
haha, cant wait to see it done. keep us updated. You should of bought the motor to while u was down here! then it really would of been a dsm killer.
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Mar 27 2006, 03:06 AM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 864 Joined: 12-July 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 556 |
QUOTE (TURBOWHT @ Mar 26 2006, 10:50 PM) You should of bought the motor to while u was down here! . is there some kind of abundance of 4g motors down where ever you are. If so where at? -------------------- "One of the most Crazy and Undecisive Members in central Illinois"
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Mar 27 2006, 08:06 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Year? Make? Model?
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Mar 27 2006, 09:33 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Hiding deep in the corn fields of Iowa, emerging as if from thin air. At first sight, appearing to be only an illusion, a dirty but elaborate trick put on by the spymaster himself. A double take assures me that it is real, as real as a heart attack. Straight, sleek lines, a low stance… as if ready to pounce on the first prey that walks by. The time is coming soon enough…
Ok, first off… 8 hours in a 85 3/4 ton 4x4 is hell on a person. The rewards were well worth the pain though. What exactly is that you ask? My new project…. DSM KLR 1. Start with a cherry dark green 1993 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD with a stock 4 bolt rear and two piston caliper big brakes. Add a six bolt motor, a full GAB suspension, 2g wheels, 3” turbo back exhaust, relocated battery with cutoff switch, Greddy turbo timer, Walbro 255 fuel pump, and bake at 350 for 1 hour…. Goal is to turn this car into one of the nicest looking and deadliest street Talon’s in the Peoria area. This is the car I’ve wanted ever since I sold my 93 GSX almost 5 years ago now. A lot of talk, I know. I’m full of talk… this time I’m ready to do some walking also… hopefully, if all goes well it will be at slo-pony day in May. Pics to follow… -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 27 2006, 10:08 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Looking for a turbo, ECU, gasket kit, timing kit, and arp head studs at the moment.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 27 2006, 10:09 AM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 259 Joined: 6-February 04 From: Bloomington Member No.: 233 |
Phhhht....720's, real men run 1000's on thear killer dsm's. Right spy?
-------------------- Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! AND WASH THAT THING OFF BEFORE YOU COME BACK!!! GROSS
FP 3065, Ported 2G exahust manifold, AEM EMS, 3" 02 housing, Shepard Racing Stage 3 tranny, Fadinza 8 LB. flywheel, Exedy stage 2 tripple puck thick ceramic cluch, 08 from the tank to filter, -6 to rail from filter, Aeromotive FPR 1:1 riseing rate, Crower Stage 4's. All of that and I don't know what I want to do next. |
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Mar 27 2006, 10:17 AM
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 Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Mar 27 2006, 10:08 AM) Looking for a turbo, ECU, gasket kit, timing kit, and arp head studs at the moment. I can knock two off that list. Turbo, and ARP head studs.  Which reminds me I need to get those studs on the exchange. |
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Mar 27 2006, 10:17 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Congrats Rob! Glad to see you in a car you like again.
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Mar 27 2006, 12:13 PM
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Web Administrator Yo! Group: Admin Posts: 516 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Mackinaw, IL Member No.: 376 |
So isn't a DSM killing Talon kind of like self mutilation? Good luck with the project!
-------------------- Fast & Furious on the outside...DSM under the hood!!!
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Mar 27 2006, 12:34 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (99Spyder @ Mar 27 2006, 12:13 PM) So isn't a DSM killing Talon kind of like self mutilation? Good luck with the project! Well... the plates were originally ordered for my 96 cobra, but I never even got to put them on that car before I sold it. Put them on the Cavi as a joke, and to make sure I kept them. Now it's kind of a reminder of all the car's I've slaughtered in my quest to get here and now. -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 27 2006, 05:30 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
QUOTE (spyonu2007 @ Mar 27 2006, 09:37 AM) sweet... Looks like your going to need some 720cc injectors and a turbo upgrade... 
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Mar 28 2006, 01:08 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
First order of business is to get it running. 720's will come later. I've got to sort though the boxes and see what else is missing. I know I've got some extra parts too, so those will probably be going up on the exchange and/or E-bay.
Got the head studs taken care of, still looking for the following - Turbo - 14b or 16g ECU 91-94 non-E-prom is fine Also, if anyone has new gaskets or timing parts laying around they want to get rid of, let me know. -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 28 2006, 01:14 PM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Give me a call. I've got my re-capped 92 ECU that I shouldn't need anymore.
-------------------- In Loving memory of David T Crebo
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Mar 28 2006, 01:55 PM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Moderators Posts: 1,156 Joined: 23-September 02 Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Mar 28 2006, 01:08 PM) Turbo - 14b or 16g I've got a 14b that you might want to take a look at when you're up here. -------------------- my cars breath smells like car food
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Mar 28 2006, 01:58 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
sweet!
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 28 2006, 04:28 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: 28-February 05 From: Quad Cities, IA Member No.: 465 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Mar 28 2006, 01:08 PM) First order of business is to get it running. 720's will come later. I've got to sort though the boxes and see what else is missing. I know I've got some extra parts too, so those will probably be going up on the exchange and/or E-bay. Got the head studs taken care of, still looking for the following - Turbo - 14b or 16g ECU 91-94 non-E-prom is fine Also, if anyone has new gaskets or timing parts laying around they want to get rid of, let me know. Ive got a 92 5-speed Turbo non Eprom ECU, shoot me a PM with offer if youre interested. Great shape, new caps last year. -------------------- 1992 TSi AWD, Auto swapped
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Mar 28 2006, 10:44 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Well, crap...
Finally got around to unpacking the boxes, and found that my motor has a burnt piston. Back to square one. Anybody got a motor for sale?
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 29 2006, 09:13 AM
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 Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 19-August 05 Member No.: 589 |
You want a DSM that will own the streets of Peoria, and your looking to throw on a 14b
 Motors shot, big deal, time for some Ross/Eagle forged internals, bored block, ported and built head, 50trim or something bigger and ball bearing (3052), SMIM, 272 cams, fmic, dsmlink and 1000cc injectors....Ya know, something like that  Honestly, a 14b just won't cut it....Maybe for breaking in the new motor tho.... -------------------- -Josh
*ChitownDSM* - '90 Talon Tsi AWD - PTE 50trim, FP Cams, Rebuilt 6 bolt ++ - '91 Talon Tsi AWD - Totalled (1/14/07) 12.79 @ 112.5mph on the stock clutch :) |
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Mar 29 2006, 09:41 AM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Mar 28 2006, 10:44 PM) Well, crap... Finally got around to unpacking the boxes, and found that my motor has a burnt piston. Back to square one. Anybody got a motor for sale? I have one with a spun bearing I'll sell you at a fair price. |
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Mar 29 2006, 09:59 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (Chicago_DSM @ Mar 29 2006, 09:13 AM) You want a DSM that will own the streets of Peoria, and your looking to throw on a 14b Motors shot, big deal, time for some Ross/Eagle forged internals, bored block, ported and built head, 50trim or something bigger and ball bearing (3052), SMIM, 272 cams, fmic, dsmlink and 1000cc injectors....Ya know, something like that Honestly, a 14b just won't cut it....Maybe for breaking in the new motor tho.... If I had 10g's burning a hole in my pocket I would. 14b is pleanty for now. -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 29 2006, 12:04 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 780 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 338 |
QUOTE (Chicago_DSM @ Mar 29 2006, 09:13 AM) You want a DSM that will own the streets of Peoria, and your looking to throw on a 14b Honestly, a 14b just won't cut it....Maybe for breaking in the new motor tho.... Folks have achieved lower ETs with a 14b than most of us will see in our efforts. Some people choose to find a better way to hit the nail rather than just get a bigger hammer. We call those "smart" people. Acheiving similar results with less money. -------------------- QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Oct 31 2006, 12:41 AM)
thanks hcar.... I am still massaging that area trying to get it ready...  |
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Mar 29 2006, 01:46 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Few other things I'm looking for -
Stock BOV and Tube Stock Fuel Rail and FPR Good clutch and Flywheel (upgrades are an option here) -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 29 2006, 01:54 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Mar 29 2006, 01:46 PM) Few other things I'm looking for - Stock BOV and Tube Stock Fuel Rail and FPR got these only thing I need to do is swap the fpr's I want to keep the one from the auto. -------------------- ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
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Mar 29 2006, 03:46 PM
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 Post Master Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Chillicothe, IL Member No.: 182 |
I've got a stock pressure plate you can have.
-------------------- GVR4 866/1000 = the perpetually broken car
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Mar 29 2006, 04:51 PM
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Info Seeker Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 19-August 05 Member No.: 589 |
Sure, low 12's have been done with 14b's, I just misunderstood your goal...I kinda thought you wanted a Street 'killer' dsm, as even tho dsm's can run 12's on 14b's, right there your only matched up to stock ws6's/03 cobra's....If you want a super quick car after the rebuild, then by all means show us what you can do with the stock turbo...I plan on keeping this 14b until it can't take anymore (20psi range)
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*ChitownDSM* - '90 Talon Tsi AWD - PTE 50trim, FP Cams, Rebuilt 6 bolt ++ - '91 Talon Tsi AWD - Totalled (1/14/07) 12.79 @ 112.5mph on the stock clutch :) |
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Mar 29 2006, 05:06 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
10's have actually been done with a 14b. I'll be happy if I get into the 12's with it, then it will be time to move on to bigger and better things.
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 29 2006, 09:14 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
This group is awesome... In about a week I think I'll have 90% of this laundry list wrapped up. Special thanks to Nate, kicks, and miami - I should have the ARP's, ECU, BOV, FPR & rail, clutch and turbo taken care of. I think I'm going to go fidenza on the flywheel... Goat, let me know when you get yours, I'm thinking of going the same route (E-bay).
Still looking for a BOV tube. Also, I think I'm going to order a Topline rebuild kit and do the motor. I'm probably going to skimp a little on stuff like the head gasket and timing belt, with the intent of building a forged motor in the meantime. Mods will be minimal for a while, so I don't think I'll have tons of trouble. Who knows, may be eating my words in a few months.  Who has had motor work done recently, and where did you take your stuff?
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 29 2006, 09:23 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
I hear they do good work let double check the BOV tube should have one from the auto.
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Mar 29 2006, 09:25 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Mar 29 2006, 09:14 PM) I think I'm going to go fidenza on the flywheel... I went with and ACT street light and I love it.
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Mar 30 2006, 08:55 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
I got my Fidanza from these guys:
www.diamondstarmotorsport.com Fast shipping and awesome customer service. -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Mar 30 2006, 09:02 AM
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 Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
I took my crank to be turned, and my flywheel to be machined at Kalina Machine on Main in Peoria. Did a good job and turnaround was quick (24 and 4 hours)
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Mar 30 2006, 09:52 AM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 396 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Peoria, IL Member No.: 8 |
I thought you had your crank polished
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Mar 30 2006, 10:22 AM
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 DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 21-July 04 From: Normal Member No.: 351 |
QUOTE (mitsu90 @ Mar 29 2006, 09:23 PM) I hear they do good work let double check the BOV tube should have one from the auto. i would get a hold of retter and see if he has time right now to rebuild the bottom end. i know he has about three cars right now that need to get done on top of his other job. he is mitsu77 on here... i would shoot him a PM. he can also get you the flywheel and such if you need. --------------------  |
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Mar 30 2006, 10:42 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
I'll be putting everything together myself, just need a machine shop. I know there have been a few that have had bad luck at Kalina, but convinience is winning out on this one. I'm probably not doing anything more than a stock rebuild now, so I'm not too worried. Thanks for the input everyone!
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 30 2006, 11:17 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
QUOTE (awdnot2gsx @ Mar 30 2006, 09:52 AM) I thought you had your crank polished oops, I meant polished....I love it when I get my crank polished!!
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Mar 30 2006, 04:16 PM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 780 Joined: 14-July 04 Member No.: 338 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Mar 29 2006, 09:14 PM) I think I'm going to go fidenza on the flywheel... Goat, let me know when you get yours, I'm thinking of going the same route (E-bay). I've had the flywheel for a while now. Looks to be top-notch. Kicks and I were looking at it, and he noticed a revision in the machining on the main body that should help to prevent any breaking around the bolt ring in the center. Go for it, buddy! -------------------- QUOTE (gsxracer80 @ Oct 31 2006, 12:41 AM)
thanks hcar.... I am still massaging that area trying to get it ready... |
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Mar 30 2006, 10:21 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
I'll probably do that next week!
Couple other issues that have arrisen that require parts. This WAS an ABS car, the ABS unit was missing, so I've decided to switch over to non-ABS. I found a non-ABS proportioning vavle, but need the brake lines that go from the valve to each front wheel. Also need a passenger side front A/C line, and a steel front bumper - bumper cover was being held on by 3 zip ties and 2 bolts... 
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Mar 30 2006, 10:29 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 259 Joined: 6-February 04 From: Bloomington Member No.: 233 |
I've got a non-abs car with AC stuff still intacked you could hore parts off of.
-------------------- Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! AND WASH THAT THING OFF BEFORE YOU COME BACK!!! GROSS
FP 3065, Ported 2G exahust manifold, AEM EMS, 3" 02 housing, Shepard Racing Stage 3 tranny, Fadinza 8 LB. flywheel, Exedy stage 2 tripple puck thick ceramic cluch, 08 from the tank to filter, -6 to rail from filter, Aeromotive FPR 1:1 riseing rate, Crower Stage 4's. All of that and I don't know what I want to do next. |
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Apr 3 2006, 08:26 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Mitsu 77 - I might have to take you up on that... you're in bloomington, right?
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Apr 3 2006, 08:54 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Anyone got a 1g aftermarket UICP they'd sell?
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Apr 3 2006, 05:08 PM
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DSMCentral Freak Group: Members Posts: 259 Joined: 6-February 04 From: Bloomington Member No.: 233 |
I am in Bloomington, but the car is in Colfax. Just let me know a time and well make a man-date.
-------------------- Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! AND WASH THAT THING OFF BEFORE YOU COME BACK!!! GROSS
FP 3065, Ported 2G exahust manifold, AEM EMS, 3" 02 housing, Shepard Racing Stage 3 tranny, Fadinza 8 LB. flywheel, Exedy stage 2 tripple puck thick ceramic cluch, 08 from the tank to filter, -6 to rail from filter, Aeromotive FPR 1:1 riseing rate, Crower Stage 4's. All of that and I don't know what I want to do next. |
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Apr 5 2006, 07:53 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Well, finally got around to pulling the motor apart last night to inspect the burnt piston better. Discovered that the damage went through the first layer of rings, and melted a good chunk of the side of the piston, and left some scoring on the cylinder wall. What's worse, the melted chunks found their way around the rest of the motor, leaving pits and scratches on most of the bearings in the motor. I'm pretty sure the block will need bored, and the crank may even need turned.
 Been in contact with the seller, and we are curently trying to work something out. I do have a spare block and crank, but it's got some surface rust starting on the cylinder walls, not sure if it can be honed out or not at this point. Basically, with what I've got, I'm looking at a complete rebuild. I'm starting to think at this point that the better option may be to find a running motor to put in it at this point, but no luck at this point finding one. Why do I like these cars so much again? 
-------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Apr 5 2006, 08:42 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
QUOTE (AWD DSM 1 @ Apr 5 2006, 07:53 AM) Why do I like these cars so much again? I feel your pain...I was just to swap some bearing and call it a day. Ended up doing almost a complete rebuild..and now I need $300 in tranny parts. I a little tired of mine right now too...the only thing that keeps me going is the promise of boost on the horizon!! If it's just surface rust, it may hone out, it's probably worth a shot. -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Apr 11 2006, 07:12 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Got the fidanza ordered yesterday around lunch time. Got a tracking number the same day! Seems like a really good place!
Now looking for some more parts to throw at it... let me know if anyone has this stuff!!! 3 gauge a-pillar pod 90 style oil cooler with lines and filter housing 2g MAS with intake pipe and filter SAFC II Realized the other day that the 1g MAS plug has already been replaced with a 2g one, so I figure I'll just go that route for now. It will give me some fuel control and better airflow, pleanty for the forseeable future. Spent some time cleaning up the interior, it's really in good shape, minus one huge tear in the driver's seat. Also worked on removing some broken bolts for the front bumper that had been busted off. -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Apr 11 2006, 09:27 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Hey spy, if AWD DSM 1 doesn't want the gauges I might be interested in some/all of them. PM me a price if AWD DSM 1 passes...
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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Apr 12 2006, 11:45 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
Does that beast have some 550cc injectors in it already then? I noticed you posted that you had a 2G MAS, which will easily over-extend the measly stock 450's.
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Apr 12 2006, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE (turbohcar @ Apr 12 2006, 11:45 AM) Does that beast have some 550cc injectors in it already then? I noticed you posted that you had a 2G MAS, which will easily over-extend the measly stock 450's. Nope... injectors will be on the list shortly no doubt.
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Apr 13 2006, 08:49 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Well, brought home what hopefully will be the heart donor for the Killer. Yet to check the motor out to make sure it's ok, but I'm crossing my fingers. Also took care of the 90 oil cooler on my list. Hopefully have a 2g MAS and a Gauge pod on the way shortly. Still looking for a SAFC.... Hopefully the project will be picking up some steam in the next few days....
 Here's a question for you... GM MAFT or 2g MAS and SAFC? Looks like price is about the same.... -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Apr 14 2006, 06:47 PM
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Apr 14 2006, 09:33 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
nice find
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Apr 14 2006, 10:21 PM
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duuuuude, you want a mean street car for cheap ill tell you what I think you should do. One word. . . Stroker! More low end torque and with a e3 16G you could have one hell of a street car. And as far as machine shops, my buddy had his 4g63 stroker built in a shop in peopria because they were apparently the best shop in the country to have a stroker built at. Theyve apparently done hundreds of 4G63 strokers. If not then there is a really good machine shop here in st.louis that is doing my motor right now that is fairly cheap and doesnt have a 2 month long wait. There name is Allied Motors. Their number is 1-636-946-4747. Ask for Adam. He's done quite a few 4G63 motors.
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Apr 15 2006, 02:51 PM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE (fastclipse82 @ Apr 14 2006, 10:21 PM) And as far as machine shops, my buddy had his 4g63 stroker built in a shop in peopria because they were apparently the best shop in the country to have a stroker built at. Theyve apparently done hundreds of 4G63 strokers. What machine shop would that be?  I know Precision in Bloomington has done quite a few strokers, but I haven't heard of a Peoria shop. |
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Apr 16 2006, 03:47 AM
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Person of Wisdom Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 5-May 03 From: Granite City, IL Member No.: 128 |
I dont know the name off hand but as soon as I find out ill post it.
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Apr 27 2006, 11:17 AM
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Not much progess, other than selling and buying some parts... picked up a gauge pod off e-bay... universal fit garbage. guess it will work for now. Also picked up a SAFC II just today. Looking forward to getting this thing on the road.... eventually. Got a lot of work to do between now and then... better get my rear in gear!
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May 2 2006, 09:49 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Got the 3rd motor apart, found metal chunks in the oil pan. I think it threw a t-belt in the past and they didn't bother to clean the oil pan out. It's going to the machine shop at lunch. Race is on to see if I can get this thing put together and dialed in before slo pony day.
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May 4 2006, 12:26 PM
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Well, third motor bit the dust also... needs bored .40 over and the crank needs turned.
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May 4 2006, 12:31 PM
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Zen Master DSM Group: Moderators Posts: 3,008 Joined: 10-January 01 From: in front of you Member No.: 5 |
That sucks. I guess its getting harder and harder to find a used 6-bolt that doesn't need machine work.
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May 4 2006, 12:42 PM
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I've got one!
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May 4 2006, 12:48 PM
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The one in your car?
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May 4 2006, 12:50 PM
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Yep you got it. You should know best what work has been done to it!
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May 4 2006, 01:06 PM
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wish I had the money!
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May 4 2006, 01:09 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
You know I'll give you the extra special "you've helped me out before so I'll help you out" deal. Now all you have to do is decide which family member you want to sell!
J/K -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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May 17 2006, 11:00 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
A huge
to turbohcar for the new heart that will power the killer... that's right, I'm back in business!! If all goes well, hopefully the car will be on the streets within the week! I've got a pile of parts that just need put together at this point.
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May 17 2006, 11:02 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
Git'er Done!
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May 17 2006, 12:03 PM
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You know that suspensful music they play in Jaws just before the shark kicks the everlivin' crap out of his victims? Yeah, that's what you're hearing now.
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May 17 2006, 07:25 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Yeah...but the shark blows up in the end....
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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May 18 2006, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE (black92_tsi_awd @ May 17 2006, 07:25 PM) Yeah...but the shark blows up in the end.... Only because of a well-trained fisherman driving a GT35R-powered assault rifle. These here are merely ususpecting surfers and sunbathers. Beware.
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May 18 2006, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (turboxtasy @ May 17 2006, 11:30 PM) not a member, don't want to sign up. what's in the link? -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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May 18 2006, 09:44 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Looks pretty rough for 1600.
Is the interior OK with the plastic bag window treatment?? -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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May 20 2006, 08:24 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
dun-da...... dun-da......
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May 20 2006, 08:31 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Hmmmm is KLR running....
Should we be scared??? -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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May 22 2006, 07:05 AM
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Trust me, I'll let you know when it's running....
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May 22 2006, 08:18 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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May 23 2006, 09:33 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
Well, I think I'm getting close...
Went to install my 2g mas, 144 intake, and K&N and discovered the setup is about 3" too long to fit in the required space. Hacked in a spare 1g mas for simplicity's sake temporarily. Anyone got a spare 1g K&N that I could borrow?I guess that will save me from having to mess with the AFC for now, although I'm still going to try to install it, I just won't have to mess with it until I have some help tuning. -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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May 23 2006, 09:54 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
I DO!
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May 23 2006, 10:08 AM
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sweet, I'll grab that when I come down to get the other stuff if you don't mind!
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May 23 2006, 10:20 AM
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DSMCentral Godfather Group: Admin Posts: 3,823 Joined: 10-January 01 From: Washburn Member No.: 26 |
I've got two used 1G K&N's
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May 28 2006, 06:53 AM
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A HUGE thanks to kicks, spy, and ncgalant for helping me get the killer bleed, leaks pluged, and ON THE ROAD last night. See you all at the track!
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May 29 2006, 09:16 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Sooo...what she run????
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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May 29 2006, 10:56 AM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,256 Joined: 10-January 01 From: central IL Member No.: 10 |
A pitiful 14.5. Boost was spiking very high, timing was getting pulled, and it was 95 deg out.
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May 29 2006, 11:14 AM
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Post Master Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Chillicothe, IL Member No.: 182 |
Well we know the motor is strong. I figured your first pass of 16.0 was decient on 20psi, no MAS, and 3 year old gas. She's a fun and BEAUTIFUL car. Thanks for the ride.
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May 29 2006, 09:02 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
I'm sure that time will improve quickly!
At least she rolling under her own power! -------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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May 29 2006, 09:12 PM
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i want your car rob dont 4get
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May 30 2006, 07:17 AM
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Brought it to work today... Driveshaft is thumping on the exhaust pretty good, need to get that fixed, and the brakes are starting to ge mushy... probably need beeld some more....
Other than that... 110 is really fun on the street in the morning commute!
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May 30 2006, 07:21 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 25-June 04 From: 61554 Member No.: 314 |
I want a rematch
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May 30 2006, 08:54 AM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
While your under there fixing the driveshaft, fill those mounts with silicone!
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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May 31 2006, 12:10 PM
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DSM Tech Wizard Group: Members Posts: 2,404 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Fletcher/Bloomington Member No.: 214 |
QUOTE (ncgalant @ May 29 2006, 11:14 AM) Well we know the motor is strong. You better believe it! Rob, if you want more go-fast parts you know where to find me. -------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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May 31 2006, 12:26 PM
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Ha! I've still got a laundry list of things to get it up to par, we'll see what happens from there.
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Jun 5 2006, 07:37 PM
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Well, after taking a week off, I decided to fix the clanking of what I thought was the driveshaft hitting the exhaust...
opps.... In reality it was the rear brake line bracket that was loose hitting the rear axle. no wonder the brakes got soft... I'm sure that big hole in the brake line didn't help any! Looking for a set of brakelines... probably go with stainless just for grins at this point. anyone? -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Jun 5 2006, 08:59 PM
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You know I've got a set for you if you want them.
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Jun 6 2006, 07:05 AM
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QUOTE (turbohcar @ Jun 5 2006, 08:59 PM) You know I've got a set for you if you want them. Stainless? -------------------- The fastest car I own is a minivan....
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Jun 7 2006, 04:05 PM
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Nope, just a regular pair, but they'll do the trick.
-------------------- "I hear he tunes the space shuttle also...and that thing is fast"
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Jun 7 2006, 05:19 PM
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You need to have your head checked if you're considering putting used brake lines on a car you're going to drive hard. I know, I know, these are DSM's and it's tough to warrant spending 160 on brand new part when you can find something used for half as much, but gimme a f-ing break man, cough up the cash for a vital part that you know will get the job done.
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Jun 7 2006, 06:21 PM
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Nor would I put used brake lines on my track car but I really need to get rid of this scrap heap taking up space in my storage unit.
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Jun 8 2006, 01:27 PM
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Thanks for the offer Brett, but I think I'm going to get some stainless lines and be done with it.
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Jun 18 2006, 07:49 PM
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Stainless lines are on, fit very nice, very easy swap. Also got the stereo in, along with the turbo timer. Still need to get the 2g mas wired up and the SAFC before it's back on the road.
To emphisize a point made a while back, don't skimp on the wiring guys. I pulled probably 50 feet of hacked and unused wiring that had been added.... sparks flew several times as I found one that still had juice in it... plus two aftermarket relays that no longer served a purpose... what a mess!!!! 
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Jun 26 2006, 09:01 PM
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SAFC is wired up, stereo is installed, turbo timer in...
Plug in the ecu, flip the battery cutout back on... turn the key.... Still some miles to put on it to get this clutch broke in, but I've got a couple other tricks up my sleeve, should be an interesting SCDC....
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Jun 26 2006, 09:04 PM
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Eats and sleeps DSM jargin. Group: Members Posts: 1,995 Joined: 27-November 04 From: Yates City IL Member No.: 389 |
Glad to hear it!
Should be a good weekend
-------------------- 92 Eagle Talon TSI AWD "The Black Golfball" How fast can a 14B go???
91 Chevy C1500 "Problem Child" **SOLD** 01 Impala DD 07 Trailblazer Wife's new DD Cars run on blood, sweat, and horsepower... Without the first two, you can't get the last" SOB Racing "Sitting On Blocks" |
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